tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post5043543687816464846..comments2023-10-31T17:36:36.916+03:00Comments on .:: SILLY BAHRAINI GIRL ::.: Shame on You JORDAN!!!SillyBahrainiGirlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16449468317171027604noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-69518935405604831202007-09-04T14:46:00.000+03:002007-09-04T14:46:00.000+03:00Hi there,I am a Lebanese filmmaker and news produc...Hi there,<BR/>I am a Lebanese filmmaker and news producer based in London. I have been covering the story of Iraqi refugees for many months now, and currently I am trying to put together a film about the treatment of refugee at borders (across syria, jordan and lebanon)... I would really appreciate it if you would be interested in speaking to me about the debate sparked by your blog... You can see the work I've done so far on www.outtherenews.com<BR/>I hope to hear from you.<BR/>All the best,<BR/>Zeina zeina.ah@outtherenews.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390152090619295040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-62694492704178147262007-09-04T00:42:00.000+03:002007-09-04T00:42:00.000+03:00Thanks Mazen. Again, it wasn't an attack on Jordan...Thanks Mazen. Again, it wasn't an attack on Jordan. It wasn't personal. It is something that is happening and should be addressed. <BR/><BR/>Again, it isn't just Jordan abusing Arabs at its borders. <BR/><BR/>Let's get down from our high horses and call a spade a spade.SillyBahrainiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16449468317171027604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-39926738130701110792007-09-03T12:56:00.000+03:002007-09-03T12:56:00.000+03:00my friend told me about this article and he told m...my friend told me about this article and he told me to read it and asked me for my opinion...Ok. <BR/>first of all, I think you are free to express your opinion about anything and you are free to say anything about Jordan. You have all the right to be upset and truely If this thing happend with me in Iraq or in any other place I would do the same thing you did. <BR/>secondly, you can't blame them for their conduct...When more than 60 innocent man,woman and child die because a group of iraqis bombed a Hotel two years ago (and I don't mean that all iraqis are terrorists). <BR/>finally, I want to remind you and Mr.Treasure of Baghdad that Jordan has accepted more than 15000 iraqi student in its schools this year and it exactly treats them like the Jordanian students(by accepting these 15000 student there will be about 50000 iraqi student in our schools).and don't forget that iraqis have a special treatment in our hospitals(they get a special discount).Mazenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00000049301017911848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-25967507129482130112007-08-17T03:34:00.000+03:002007-08-17T03:34:00.000+03:00When Jordanians were studying in my country Iraq, ...When Jordanians were studying in my country Iraq, we considered them our friends and min ahl ilbait, as we say. <BR/><BR/>Now, this is how they return the favor. This is how they say thank you for the free oil and electricity Iraq used to provide them with. Alas! And they call it the "Arab Homeland". Hopefully one day Iraq withdraws from the so-called Arab League which has no role but to be a kiss ass of everyone conspired against our new Iraq.Bassam Sebtihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11782175662290272238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-63775786199272356352007-08-16T11:54:00.000+03:002007-08-16T11:54:00.000+03:00I was totally perplexed and bewildered by the way ...I was totally perplexed and bewildered by the way you acknowledged the distressing generalization you made. You not only said that you are ready to correct your mistake, but also, called yourself "ignorant" & "arrogant" -la sama7 Allah . My mind stopped working so I sent messages to two of my wisest friends to consult them what to do!!! 'cause I really was overwhelmed by your modesty.<BR/><BR/>However, Just minutes ago, I stopped and told myself: "Who are you to tell such an intelligent, knowledgeable, and most importantly, open-minded person how to correct a mistake she made (unintentionally)?! I can't! You certainly know how to deal in such a situation, and can certainly figure out what is best to do.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for giving me the chance to give-and-take with a person like you. It is really my first time to participate in a Blog discussion. That would not have happened if you were like some Bloggers who are very arrogant that only give others a chance to agree with them. Thanks again and again.Jameel Hijazeenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00492544358997971732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-88824832804608500932007-08-15T18:07:00.000+03:002007-08-15T18:07:00.000+03:00The bottom line, my objection is not on how the cr...The bottom line, my objection is not on how the criticizing should be, nor whether it is your right to put your opinion or not, nor that you should be saying good things about my country. Absolutely No. My objection is that your making [Jordan] responsible for the notorious incident, as you have displayed it: “Shame on you JORDAN”.<BR/><BR/>Dear Dr Jameel, <BR/>I get it. Thanks for showing me light in your courteous responses. And I profusely apologise to Jordan and all Jordanians for the human rights allegations being committed against Iraqis in their airport. <BR/><BR/>I never thought of it before how much harm such a generalisation could cause how I shouldn't have jumped the gun and labelled the whole country for the inhuman bahaviour of border guards at the country's main airport. <BR/><BR/>I hang my head in shame for my arrogance and ignorance and not being able to differentiate between a country and its airport. <BR/><BR/>Since you are the only voice of reason in this thread, please let me know how I can make amends.SillyBahrainiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16449468317171027604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-5786048362806354752007-08-14T23:05:00.000+03:002007-08-14T23:05:00.000+03:00Hey! I really like the way you respond to the comm...Hey! I really like the way you respond to the comments posted in your Blog. That is why I am still posting for the third time.<BR/><BR/>Whenever someone do something, he/she should do it based on a conviction. Was my asking to change the title because I want to be happy? Because I don't like criticisms? Because I am a person who is believing in: "We are a proud person. Humiliation kills us more than weapons and stones.."?<BR/><BR/>Of course not, as many of the comments said, the objection is on the generalization. To stick shame to all Jordan. No one said that you should tolerate the incident, no one defended the (people) responsible for that. Did any? I can't find any comment demanding such a shameful demands!<BR/><BR/>As I said before, and I am saying it again, do you tolerate those who promoted the: "All Arabs are terrorists!" Just because 19 Arabs were involved in the 911 attacks? Don't pass this question, try answering it, is it fair to generalize the single incident of 911 (the airport) to whole Arabs (Jordan) ?! I do believe that you will not tolerate the generalization of you and I being 'terrorists'. as I don't tolerate your calling Jordan, and eventually who make up Jordan, with... And the most important point, your accepting sticking shame, sorry: terrorism, to Arabs, doesn't mean that you are defending the 911 attacks!!!<BR/><BR/>Concerning your stating that you will be the first to say: "Shame on you Bahrain!" I really can't get it?! How can you punish a whole country for the wrong doing of a person or a group being a citizen of it?!<BR/><BR/>The bottom line, my objection is not on how the criticizing should be, nor whether it is your right to put your opinion or not, nor that you should be saying good things about my country. Absolutely No. My objection is that your making [Jordan] responsible for the notorious incident, as you have displayed it: “Shame on you JORDAN”. <BR/><BR/>Many and many thanks...Jameel Hijazeenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00492544358997971732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-30540921840040127212007-08-14T18:21:00.000+03:002007-08-14T18:21:00.000+03:00Again Dr Jameel, Thanks for your comment and insig...Again Dr Jameel, Thanks for your comment and insight. It is always a pleasure to deal with someone who exhibits intelligence and is ready to give and take. <BR/><BR/>Will changing the title of the post make everyone happy? I don't have a problem with that as I am not stubborn nor arrogant -- though I still don't see the reason for the outcry. Will a title like: "Thank You Jordan" be of satisfaction to everyone? I think that the latter title would be more insulting and show real malice, especially when I get getting comments from readers along the lines: 'Thank you!' <BR/> <BR/>Had this situation been in Bahrain, I would have been the first to cry out loud: Shame on you Bahrain, as I have done on many occasions before. <BR/><BR/>My love and affection for my country certainly mean that I have to point out our mistakes and air my opinion about them. Otherwise, I am not a worthy citizen. <BR/><BR/>Had the writer of this article been Jordanian, I certainly wouldn't have seen as violent an outcry. <BR/><BR/>I am not against any reader who took offense in the title and expressed his/her anger about the post. In fact, many are bloggers whom I respect and follow their blogs on a routine basis. I am also happy to see them stand up for their rights and come to the defense of their country and their beliefs. What surprised me most, however, is that a comment which was specifically related to a particular incident was blown way out of proportion for absolutely no reason. <BR/><BR/>Back to the story of the messenger --- instead of stoning me, let's take a closer look around us and try to focus attention on human rights abuses and see to it that perpetrators are given their due. <BR/><BR/>We are a proud people. Humiliation kills us more than weapons and stones. Let's not drag our noses in the dirt ..SillyBahrainiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16449468317171027604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-55305681207119385232007-08-14T14:12:00.000+03:002007-08-14T14:12:00.000+03:00First of all, I would like to thank you for the ve...First of all, I would like to thank you for the very nice respond. Concerning my not polite question, the one about the deleted comments, "Shame on You JAMEEL"! I thought that the "Deleted by the author", refers to the Blog owner. Sorry again.<BR/><BR/>However, and sorrowfully, I was deeply shocked by the last comment of yours, the one about "showing your true colors". I totally disagree with you in what you have said.<BR/><BR/>First of all, I won't enter into the maze of judging what is an insult what it isn't among the comment! I really find no comment that can be called with this description. In addition, and most importantly, If you believe that some comments are an "insult", can you tell me what word can fit the above title [Just the title, not the content of the post!]?<BR/><BR/>What is more, who blamed you for commenting on 'a specific humanitarian issue'?! If my English won't fail me, no one in the post said anything against the incident in the airport. Almost all of the commenter objected to the title, or at least alluded to it, just the title, not what the 'humanitarian issue' which you say that you are discussing?! For example:<BR/>(Hareega) said: "It looks like you formulated you opinion [on Jordan] quickly..." Obviously indicating to your not innocent generalization. Later on he said: "Think twice before you [insult] a whole country"<BR/>(Konfused Kid) said: "Yes, it is wrong to [generalize] on an entire country..."<BR/>(The observer) said: "You don't have to bash a [whole country]... ", Later on: "Yes, we are entitled to criticize the authorities... [at the airport]"<BR/><BR/>And the list goes on and on... I am not defending all the comments, but my point of view is the following: Imagine the airport incident happened in Bahrain, what would your reaction if someone came up with a similar title: "Shame on You BAHRAIN" Won't you be furious and angry? Wouldn't you respond with such criticizing comments and even more sharp ones?<BR/><BR/>If your post is: "Really all about the mercenary Jordanians employed..." Can I know why are you still allowing such an extremely hideous title to pollute your beautiful Blog?! If I ever came up with such an offensive title, do you know what I will do? I would have probably be stubborn and refuse to admit my mistake! But, fortunately, I know what Ghandi once said: "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." I believe that correcting mistakes is also, the attribute of the strong.<BR/><BR/>Thank you again for your earlier response. Best wishes.Jameel Hijazeenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00492544358997971732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-79444289855784941472007-08-14T00:13:00.000+03:002007-08-14T00:13:00.000+03:00emmmm... are you done with insulting and bashing m...emmmm... are you done with insulting and bashing me for no other reason than commenting on a specific humanitarian issue? <BR/><BR/>My comments were specifically related to the issue at hand and the post, which may be about the treatment of Iraqis in Jordan, is really all about the mercenary Jordanians employed in OUR BAHRAINI police force. <BR/><BR/>Try taking a chill pill before going on a rampage and calling me names... Thanks for showing me your true colours!SillyBahrainiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16449468317171027604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-63657781238868247982007-08-13T22:39:00.000+03:002007-08-13T22:39:00.000+03:00Shame on you actually for isulting a whole nation ...Shame on you actually for isulting a whole nation that did more than enough to help Arab refugees! Would you be happy if I bash Bahrain for the actions of some people and not all? And by the way, quite ironic that you form an opinion without knowing what it is really like to receive almost over 700,000 Iraqis over a short period of time in a small country with a fragile economy.<BR/><BR/>Have some decency and objectivity for God's sake.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07059500892502593819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-77024895399310871962007-08-13T19:00:00.000+03:002007-08-13T19:00:00.000+03:00well i read the story and briefly went through t t...well i read the story and briefly went through t the comments,<BR/><BR/>i really feel sorry for the guy and his wife, and if I were him i would complain to the media and make sure that this sort of thing doesn't happen to anyone else, and our officials are quick to respond to media covered incidents "sadly".<BR/><BR/>but to disrespect Jordan and its people is something shameful and indicates the lack of taste, respect and spine.<BR/><BR/>Jordan is the land of destination for all Arab refugees, and yet we welcome them with all our hearts and have them share our resources with all the mess they do to our country and our economy.<BR/><BR/>The Jordanian people are real men and women with pride, honor and dignity, don't blame them for mistakes our government makes, so please remove ur silly blog title.<BR/><BR/><BR/>at the end i would like to say shame on us Arabs attacking each other like dogs when we should stick together and blah blah blah.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06399985637466388168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-58338988125505674382007-08-13T13:31:00.000+03:002007-08-13T13:31:00.000+03:00This is so sad ..do you know why? because your fir...This is so sad ..<BR/>do you know why? <BR/>because your <BR/>first sentence says "This is a story of how one Arab eats the flesh of another Arab."<BR/><BR/>and so did you with this post! period!Maherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15447537992657642425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-80727427142077496132007-08-13T12:54:00.000+03:002007-08-13T12:54:00.000+03:00It is a shame on the police at the Queen Alia airp...It is a shame on the police at the Queen Alia airport! You dont have to bash a whole country who have been the lung of the Iraqi people for years. <BR/><BR/>Yes, we are entitled to critisize the authorities and the inhuman situation at the airport, but it is a lie to say that this is the true face of Jordan. The true face of Jordan is not this. It is generousity and tolerance to every other human being.The Observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01601842419039013133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-46132001923920784452007-08-13T09:45:00.000+03:002007-08-13T09:45:00.000+03:00Yes, it is wrong to generalize on an entire countr...Yes, it is wrong to generalize on an entire country, and me as an Iraqi living in Jordan I have not met many difficulties and in fact a lot of JOrdanians are nice, but this is what people do, those Jordanians, those Iraqis, and it's quite understandable when you're frustrated and abused. The issue at hand is not if they are not letting people in, but the manner of treatment like someone says, this also goes to the way they beat those people celebrating the Iraq win over Saudi Arabia, you could disperse the crowds much more nicely, and get a good rep for your country. Exchanged insults will only lead to childish fights and another 'proud' demonstration of Arab Unity.ahmedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17104880505765835826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-44946617092456892602007-08-13T04:22:00.000+03:002007-08-13T04:22:00.000+03:00that's how our airport looks, can't you get some w...that's how our airport looks, can't you get some wasta and do a new one for us, incase ours doesn't suit your iraqi friends.Moeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01627023713830665293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-65155327858795421012007-08-13T04:17:00.000+03:002007-08-13T04:17:00.000+03:00Moey..Sorry but that wasn't the subject of the pos...Moey..Sorry but that wasn't the subject of the post. <BR/>The post spoke about a humanitarian situation and the wide abuse of human rights by Jordanian authorities at your airport.SillyBahrainiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16449468317171027604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-92062318245998784352007-08-13T03:34:00.000+03:002007-08-13T03:34:00.000+03:00iraqis caused nothing but troubles to jordan, why ...iraqis caused nothing but troubles to jordan, why don't let them come to your country and ruin its financialsMoeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01627023713830665293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-12199838804408945742007-08-13T01:35:00.000+03:002007-08-13T01:35:00.000+03:00Thanks Dr Jameel for your comment. Let me start wi...Thanks Dr Jameel for your comment. <BR/><BR/>Let me start with the most obvious, I didn't delete the comments on this post. <BR/>The comments have been deleted by the author who posted them and not me. <BR/><BR/>As for all the fuss about me attacking Jordan, I didn't want to be dragged into it although I am glad to see that it created an outcry and people like you are acknowledging that the treatment Iraqis get at Queen Alia's airport is a real shame. <BR/><BR/>As to what other Arabs are doing, I hang my head in shame and admit that they aren't doing much. <BR/><BR/>Unofficial reports from Bahrain claim that my country has taken in a few hundred Saddamists to squash internal dissidence and change the demographic composition in Bahrain - to offset the Shia majority. <BR/><BR/>It is the same policy which brings many of the rif raf and criminals from Jordan we interact with in Bahrain on a daily basis - mercenaries who work with the police and defence forces and who have not an ounce of humanity in them.SillyBahrainiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16449468317171027604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-78667809067849565392007-08-12T21:35:00.000+03:002007-08-12T21:35:00.000+03:00O.K. what happened in the airport is a real shame....O.K. what happened in the airport is a real shame. But does that mean that you to generalize what happened to all Jordan and Jordanians? To forget all the good things Jordan did? (don't you think that ,a country that doesn't have enough water for its people, did make a big sacrifice by receiving hundreds of thousands of sudden refugees? Not to mention the originally fragile economy?)<BR/><BR/>Ask yourself the following question: Is there any difference between the above title and those who took advantage of the 911 attacks and started promoting the idea: "All Arabs are terrorists? Weren't (19) Arabs responsible for those attacks?" Aren't this title put you in the same people with those people?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Does this single accident, and even 10 more, justify forgetting all what had Jordan done? Someone out there will go and say: "Jordan did nothing!" To this I say, what did the rest [equally-responsible ] Arab countries do? Was Jordan somehow responsible for the misery of the Iraqi people that it should be responsible for all the consequences?! <BR/><BR/>Last but not least, can you tell me what did the rest capable Arab countries do to help displaced Iraqi people? <BR/><BR/>P.S. I saw that some comments are deleted, was that because they disagree with you in your point of view? If my comment got the same fate, then I believe that I can guess the answer. Thanks!Jameel Hijazeenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00492544358997971732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-8386376147313324972007-08-12T08:52:00.000+03:002007-08-12T08:52:00.000+03:00"I do believe in ARAB unity and not just knocking ..."I do believe in ARAB unity and not just knocking down the Iraqi ruling family to have another IRAN (take a hint)"<BR/><BR/>Thank you for clearly demonstrating your unbelievable lack of knowledge and sheer stupidity.Mahmoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02486820095103609524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-41544766022604661682007-08-12T02:34:00.000+03:002007-08-12T02:34:00.000+03:00"Apparently you'd rather see human rights abused a...<I>"Apparently you'd rather see human rights abused and people humiliated because they are most likely terrorists."</I><BR/>And yes, I was being entirely sarcastic here. Maybe when you are treated like an animal someone else will justify it claiming that you're a threat to security; a terrorist! Shock and awe.Esra'ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14967674641608990722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-9131356692541931542007-08-12T02:18:00.000+03:002007-08-12T02:18:00.000+03:00You know, it's kind of embarrassing to see people ...You know, it's kind of embarrassing to see people completely taking this post out of proportion. It's normal to jump to your country's defense when it has been wronged but it's not normal to ignore its mistakes. There's a line between pride and being downright shallow, and certain posts above certainly fall under the latter.<BR/><BR/>Grow a thicker layer of skin and learn how to deal with criticism instead of pitifully justifying these abuses. Problems need to be addressed and no one thus far has actually addressed them, instead of saying "I dislike your approach but share your disgust with this situation," you go and justify it! If you truly loved your country you'd be the first to stand up and say "this treatment is wrong." Apparently you'd rather see human rights abused and people humiliated because they are most likely terrorists.<BR/><BR/>Is she against refugees? No. She is against their treatment within the airport. So, dear nationalists, stick to the topic at hand and stop making shitty excuses for things Jordan, oh sorry, I mean CERTAIN JORDANIAN REPRESENTATIVES (warning! this may also be sensitive to extreme nationalists) are guilty of. <BR/><BR/>Like it or not we all have the right to criticize what we see wrong and if your country is associated, then you should do the right thing and represent it in the correct manner rather than... ehm ehm, shooting the messenger. <BR/><BR/>Oops am I going to get shot for this one too? Who gives a shit? At least we don't run around saying "omg dunt critizy our cuntry u stupids!! ur not messenger ur bad person i am prud to be arabz in fact sadam iz great!! btw ur pst is bad."<BR/><BR/>Sigh. Typical collectivist bullshit.Esra'ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14967674641608990722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-66854232908193073292007-08-11T23:14:00.000+03:002007-08-11T23:14:00.000+03:00messanger? reading the title of the entry makes me...messanger? reading the title of the entry makes me sure you're not a messanger. Think twice before you insult a whole countryHareegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03506185925815988104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9291546.post-64529555726178874902007-08-11T18:06:00.000+03:002007-08-11T18:06:00.000+03:00LOL! Thanks for hanging the messenger!LOL! Thanks for hanging the messenger!SillyBahrainiGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16449468317171027604noreply@blogger.com